Asya VAmasya Hymn (Rg Veda 1.164) Sept 28, 2010 13:04:23 GMT -6
Post by Nitaidas on Sept 28, 2010 13:04:23 GMT -6
You said "mythology is mainly astronomical." This is clearly not the case in this hymn. There is some astronomy but it is not the main thing, as we shall see.
That depends on your interpretation. I count about 33 verses (or a line in a verse) with an astronomical/cosmogonical meaning:
verses 2,3, 5-15, 17, 19, 25-28, 30, 31, 33-36, 39, 41, 42, 47, 48 and 50-52. That's quite a lot. Not a real cow in sight. Not to my myopic eyes that is.
You are a very clever man, gerardji. You have now switched to talking about cosmogony and astronomy as if they were the same thing. That is not so. A cosmogony can be the result of a primordial sexual act or of a primordial sacrifice or it could be shrouded in mystery such that no one really knows how it happened (10.129). None of these cosmogonies have anything to do with astronomy. That eliminates at least two thirds of those verses you listed. Moreover, every time a number is cited does not mean something astronomical. As I see it, even 2-3 are dubiously about astronomy. The chariot could be the chariot of time with the three naves of the wheel representing the past, present, and future. Why limit ourselves to looking for astronomy? Time through represent perhaps in the motions of the sun and moon and stars is surely trans-astronomical, a bigger force than the motions of the planets and stars. I am going to continue my translation of the hymn because that is how I meditate on it and we shall see how little there is of astronomy in it.
This idea that the authors hid their knowledge in their texts is itself a myth. Why would they hide their astronomy, mathematics, medicine, and so forth? Who were they keeping it from and why? It makes no sense.
The brahmins didn't have to wait for Francis Bacon to tell them that 'knowledge is power'.
Knowledge is also liberating and live-saving and a little of it is a dangerous thing. These are all cliches, gerardji. One cannot sprout them without thinking about them. Saying them often enough does not make them true. Even if true, the brahmins didn't need codes. They already had sufficient safeguards in place for their knowledge. They only taught their own and they taught them in an old obscure language that was not understood anymore in the communities within which they were embedded. No need to invent codes. Besides. they had to let some of their knowledge out otherwise no one else would have heard about it or considered it important or worth having. This is called advertising.
If the Australian aborigines put their knowledge of astronomy in songs it was to preserve it in a way that could be passed down to their descendants.. Why suspect anything else?