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Post by HF on Jul 14, 2009 10:27:58 GMT -6
I think is possibly certain traditionalists fail to recognize humor.  Which means failure to recognize The Complete Mahaprabhu. Still, yoga is a good one. And a bhulddhishitt monastery will make a peaceful fellow out of one. A bit dull too, perhaps, but who needs chuckling in a seriously unpreaching world? |
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Post by Vinod on Jul 14, 2009 19:49:51 GMT -6
Advaita Prabhu and Nitiyananda Prabhu had this fight and Gauranga immediately sent both to do some breathing and stretching exercises.  |
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Post by JD33 on Jul 16, 2009 10:30:20 GMT -6
I am slow on understanding humor at times, but was nice of you to let me know. I still think there is a time and place where humor is more skillful and therefore more appreciated. When people come in gangbusters into a thread that has specific work of sometimes sensitive sharing of sincere human beings in their outreach for clarification and cleansing that results - it (the humor) becomes a distraction and can intimidate the continuity of the interactions already started. It is up to each individual to be thoughtful and compassionate to allow people the space for continued psychological and spiritual growth, even at the cost of ego inflation. This is what I think anyway.
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Post by zvs on Jul 16, 2009 10:59:19 GMT -6
JD,
The original "Anonymous" who asked you a question on here is a very smart, very mature, very sincere individual. (It is someone I know.) I hope you two will be able to continue to converse either on here or in private; s/he is rather wary of message boards.
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Post by Euphegenia on Jul 16, 2009 11:40:32 GMT -6
I think is possibly certain traditionalists fail to recognize humor. Which means failure to recognize The Complete Mahaprabhu. Still, yoga is a good one. And a bhulddhishitt monastery will make a peaceful fellow out of one. A bit dull too, perhaps, but who needs chuckling in a seriously unpreaching world? jd33, your humility is admirable, but it's not that you're "slow to recognize humor," because this person's obnoxious and offensive comments were clearly not intended as "humor." The "bhulddishitt monastery" and "who needs chuckling in a seriously unpreaching world?" are just a couple of the fairly blatant giveaways. |
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Post by JD33 on Jul 16, 2009 14:55:29 GMT -6
Thank you zvs - I gathered that the person is as you say and so I continue to let them know they can e-mail me anytime for respectful interaction. Its ashame to not take advantage - at the same time it is difficult at times to build trust again.
I believe that there is little time to waste and that un-needed suffering is something that happens all too often. As most people know we give out to others what we are/have and so its quite clear where we are at spiritually by these kind of barometers.
Euphegenia - Thank you for the comment - the first one if it was consciously written is quite offensive - the second one however seems to make sense - in an unpreaching world there is not need to use humor to be hostile, abusive and condescending. Again, humor is a wonderful thing when both (all) parties get joy from it and are uplifted. The win-win kind of way.
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Post by Myopya on Jul 16, 2009 21:10:27 GMT -6
If the Original Anonymous were really smart she would have figured somewhere in her 20 or so years of Hare Krishna dealings that ACBS is not the source of the misogyny in our religion. She would have, unlike Eckard, done at least some research in Indian culture in general, and this tradition in particular, and found that misogyny has been a multiculture phenomenon throughout history, one that ACBS just happened to express in a very noticeable way and which caused, as it always has, suffering that could have been avoided.
But "obnoxious" and "offensive" comments? No such thing. OA is just being manipulative with this charge. I soothingly suggest, get a reflective grip of the moment's flow of emotions.
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Post by JD33 on Jul 16, 2009 23:09:50 GMT -6
To JW: Yes, Traditionalists do fight at times, but usually not the true sadhus. Those are the ones I had in mind when I said that.
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Post by Jwala on Jul 17, 2009 0:18:23 GMT -6
True sadhus do fight. Advaita Prabhu and Nityananda Prabhu got in a fight, and Gauranga was very pleased to watch... ;D
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Post by JD33 on Feb 27, 2010 18:30:02 GMT -6
Shall this thread be ressurected?
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Post by JD33 on Feb 27, 2010 18:51:50 GMT -6
JD, The original "Anonymous" who asked you a question on here is a very smart, very mature, very sincere individual. (It is someone I know.) I hope you two will be able to continue to converse either on here or in private; s/he is rather wary of message boards. This is an old thread, but i am not sure if this sincere person has continued with but for just one or two interactions. The world and social climate perplexes me - When I heard about an American who came in the original CV Tradition I spent hours with him each and everyday......... My life became exqusite as I listened and watched him do Puja to Giridhari, etc etc I was so happy and felt so fortunate to learn sadhu sadacar (cleanliness and social ettiquette amongst the sadhus of all vaishnava traditions) he was a God-send/Bhagavan-send! Later of course when I arrived in India he became my elder Guru-brother and I fitted in so well there, having already been taught sadacar and some basic knowledge and ability in the Bengali language. Is it the opposite trend now-a-days? What is the trend now? Was I out-of-trend back in the 70's? Am I ranting? Have I done this before? Obviously I am talking to myself..... where has my commitment gone? I still feel if I can be as compassionate as my Guru-brother and help a few others my debt to him can be repaid...... His compassion can be paid forward. Does that make sense? |
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Post by spiritualbhakti on Feb 28, 2010 0:40:25 GMT -6
Dear Jd, Thank you for starting this thread.  I have a question, is it posible for us to attain the goal of sadhana in this one lifetime? Please tell us what steps we should take if we want to fully devote our selves to RadhaKrsna, and how to use our time wisely? Thank you |
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Post by JD33 on Feb 28, 2010 12:28:40 GMT -6
Yes, it is possible! I guess I would say is to get the blessings of one or more Sadhus of any of the real RK Vaishnav Traditions...... and then read all the authentic books you can on RK sadhana........ Read them and meditate on them and then ask questions about them to one or more Sadhus of the Tradition. Learn sadacar!!!! All during this time pray deeply and sincerely for to be Blessed to find the True Guru to open up the valid and true pathway to RK prem seva for you. Then live and serve that Blessed Gurudev and do Bhajan Sadhana and be happy! Find a way to serve senior Vaishnavas in a genuine, loving way with humility. And pre-pare to visit and live in the Holy Dham as one can........ Pre-pare by having money to go and not be dependant on others while there, and also pre-pare as you can to understand to just approach the seasoned Sadhus and not get distracted by others who will want your money and attention! This is a good begining I think......... What do you all think?
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Post by JD33 on Jul 17, 2010 14:57:51 GMT -6
Is this a good time to ressurect this thread?
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Post by spiritualbhakti on Sept 22, 2010 22:50:14 GMT -6
Certainly!
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Which means failure to recognize The Complete Mahaprabhu. 
