Post by madanmohandas on May 3, 2021 11:25:06 GMT -6
Particularly nice about the Odiya one is the meter used throughout, unlike the Bangala payar meter of 14 syllable lines dived into two feet of 8 and 6, the Odiya navaksa chanda has a short line of just 9 syllables, and has a very distinctive rhythm or pulse, you might say, adaptable to any variety of tune and tempo.
Om is kinda neutral. They say all Vedic mantra should start with om. But Veda does not give final beatitude the meter is imp to master. Ramayan is 14 syllable. Bhagawat is mostly 8. I’m working on a tune for it. But I know if will fail
I don’t think Sanskrit can work in a melody. People who sing it may not be applying correct accentuation and the meaning may be getting lost. The thing is it suppose to be preserved. I would not take part in damaging the language. It has to be chanted with the tonations as created. I'm not sure if any of the Vedic brahmanas chant the Bhagawata. I haven't heard any. It would be nice if some of our pandits here started.
It matters. There are people who continue to be hurt due to the large-scale deception. I speak to a friend who is like an administrator at an Iskcon temple forever - she feels if P had not been so ambitous and make people bleed blood to establish a worldwide movement in a few short years things would have been better. His guru told him to preach in the west - not open a million dollar worldwide business.org with the biggest multimillion dollar temples to give competition in India, he over did it, all because the followers sell a myth of a man so they could make a living themselves. Morning mangal arti is an hour of worshipping him with "vande guru sri" then gurupuja another hour of "sri guru charana" then the guru pranam mantra every five minutes is like a drug to induce poor hapless people - the thrones bio, films large scale promotion is soo opposite to bhakti. I mean the tradition is strict against even saying the gurus names, read Hari Bhakti Vilasa. Guru puja is held only once a year in the tradition, any real guru hates attention. They drum his name into people's head that they cant get a chance to think of anyone else, people are thus drugged and there is not counter to it. There was a protest in the Krishna Balaram temple some time back the media was called, the pujaris were protesting that they were exploited, next thing Gopal K came and calmed down the media, and back to poverty and a life of want went the pujaris, meanwhile the rich boys can never get enough - and the means is to sell the myth to the gullible and indians about how great the man was. He was able to transfer the message - and that was great but many people helped him and get no credit at all [and many were destroyed too which should not have happened ]
Most groups are now like this and it's a great turn off in my view: Once the guru is lavished and raised to heaven hardly anyone cares how me and you fare and no appreciation. Scriptures when you read so much praises were written about devotees. Nowadays it's Jai Gurudeva and we not so concerned how you are managing just do the seva. That is how a guru cult is perpetrated and it's aparaadh, disciples are also devoees worth something.
Post by madanmohandas on May 10, 2021 13:07:11 GMT -6
Just came across the same verse from Book III, Canto XXIX. verse 45 Kapila to Devahuti, in Book IV, Canto XI, verse 19, Manu to Dhruva. I wonder which of the commentators have drawn attention to it, or perhaps it is not considered worth mentioning. hehehe