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Post by Nitaidas on May 7, 2011 8:15:28 GMT -6
Lennox is such a buffoon. He should calculate the odds of there being a being complicated enough and powerful enough to create a universe like ours. Now that's improbable!
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Post by Ekantin on May 7, 2011 12:13:14 GMT -6
Has science buried God? Yes.
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Post by ajhi2 on May 25, 2011 11:22:35 GMT -6
Lennox is such a buffoon. He should calculate the odds of there being a being complicated enough and powerful enough to create a universe like ours. Now that's improbable! science do not believe in mind even. if either party going to make any ground, they would have more respectful communication with each other. if scientists are so confident in their theory, and considering the fact no knowledge has ever been published proving evolution more why are they so sensitive to criticism. on a side note: i like the historical theory of filtering i read from someone. |
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Post by Ekantin on May 25, 2011 19:32:22 GMT -6
science do not believe in mind even. Just wondering what you meant by this? Neuroscience and psychology are valid fields. Well, the problem is that the people are so religious that they can't handle it when the truth is known that their ideas are fancies. So they try very hard to poke holes in it and always fail, since they don't understand it as well as a scientist does. And then they become angry and say "it's only a theory", evidently ignorant of the scientific definition of 'theory' and using always the popular meaning of 'theory', and suggest that it should not be taught in schools to impressionable students. |
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Post by ajhi2 on May 25, 2011 20:09:11 GMT -6
"Just wondering what you meant by this? Neuroscience and psychology are valid fields."
Exactly, neuroscience deals with a concrete organ and psychology the architecture of feeling and thinking.
As i said on a different point, scientists are sure there is no mind.
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Post by ajhi2 on May 25, 2011 20:14:26 GMT -6
science do not believe in mind even. Just wondering what you meant by this? Neuroscience and psychology are valid fields. Well, the problem is that the people are so religious that they can't handle it when the truth is known that their ideas are fancies. So they try very hard to poke holes in it and always fail, since they don't understand it as well as a scientist does. And then they become angry and say "it's only a theory", evidently ignorant of the scientific definition of 'theory' and using always the popular meaning of 'theory', and suggest that it should not be taught in schools to impressionable students. Yeah, Western / modern science is the unilateral uniform body of information everyone lives by. The uneducated comment 'it's only a theory' is asking for it. The responder to this reaction should ignore and continue on; like replying with evidence would actually educate the thrower. |
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Post by ajhi2 on May 25, 2011 20:18:14 GMT -6
O, time travel is accepted in science as extremely plausible.
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Post by Nitaidas on Jun 1, 2011 21:29:29 GMT -6
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Post by ajhi2 on Jun 2, 2011 8:19:33 GMT -6
The thing about Darwinian evolution is that its a tautology. "The survival of the fittest". Duh! 'Chicken or the egg' This is modern scientist most politely letting you know that they do not have 100% confirmation on the scientific theory. Otherwise, they would have answered the question by now!! Unimportant advice for anyone without an accredited college degree in this area. Please talk to a PhD in private (where another PhD would not hear them) and take notes. I am sure you will have doubts on this area now. No one has done this and just ramble on and on. . . |
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Post by Nitaidas on Jun 2, 2011 9:56:05 GMT -6
Here is an interesting piece on the problems Christians (and Jews) have claiming the reality of Adam and Eve. I guess it corresponds to the difficulties we Vaisnava have in claiming the historicity of Krsna in Vraja. Or perhaps the comparable problem relates to Manu, though. In either case historicity is impossible to prove. Here, |
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Post by Nitaidas on Jun 2, 2011 10:09:15 GMT -6
The thing about Darwinian evolution is that its a tautology. "The survival of the fittest". Duh! It seems like a "duh" now, but two hundred years ago our eyes were filled with the smoke of religious fantasies and wild guesses. I am not sure this is a tautology anyway. Survival and fitness are not exactly the same thing. Besides Darwin taught natural selection. It was his evolutionist opponent Herbert Spencer who coined that phrase. It does not mean the same thing as natural selection. Spencer's view of evolution has been all but forgotten. Are you trying to embody the Jesus n Mo cartoon for us? |
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Post by ajhi2 on Jun 2, 2011 13:29:06 GMT -6
The thing about Darwinian evolution is that its a tautology. "The survival of the fittest". Duh! It seems like a "duh" now, but two hundred years ago our eyes were filled with the smoke of religious fantasies and wild guesses. I am not sure this is a tautology anyway. Survival and fitness are not exactly the same thing. Besides Darwin taught natural selection. It was his evolutionist opponent Herbert Spencer who coined that phrase. It does not mean the same thing as natural selection. Spencer's view of evolution has been all but forgotten. Are you trying to embody the Jesus n Mo cartoon for us? The different meanings are only semantics and causal. In practical terms, they're same. "Alfred Russel Wallace, OM, FRS (8 January 1823 – 7 November 1913) was a British naturalist, explorer, geographer, anthropologist and biologist. He is best known for independently proposing a theory of evolution due to natural selection that prompted Charles Darwin to publish his own theory. Wallace did extensive fieldwork, first in the Amazon River basin and then in the Malay Archipelago, where he identified the Wallace Line that divides the Indonesian archipelago into two distinct parts, one in which animals closely related to those of Australia are common, and one in which the species are largely of Asian origin. He was considered the 19th century's leading expert on the geographical distribution of animal species and is sometimes called the "father of biogeography".[1] Wallace was one of the leading evolutionary thinkers of the 19th century and made a number of other contributions to the development of evolutionary theory besides being co-discoverer of natural selection. These included the concept of warning colouration in animals, and the Wallace effect, a hypothesis on how natural selection could contribute to speciation by encouraging the development of barriers against hybridization." People need to study history on this subject more . . . In Physics of Consciousness the author tries to fix the error in history 'Darwin evolution' implies Darwin discovered it. But both of them are researchers. Wallace went first and every historian agrees it influenced Darwin who went next. Try studying Wikipedia. |
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Post by ajhi2 on Jun 2, 2011 13:37:06 GMT -6
Here is an interesting piece on the problems Christians (and Jews) have claiming the reality of Adam and Eve. I guess it corresponds to the difficulties we Vaisnava have in claiming the historicity of Krsna in Vraja. Or perhaps the comparable problem relates to Manu, though. In either case historicity is impossible to prove. Here,Neither Jesus or Vraja stories have any historical basis. Things disappear after 2000, 5000 years. |
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Post by Nitaidas on Jun 2, 2011 17:53:23 GMT -6
Neither Jesus or Vraja stories have any historical basis. Things disappear after 2000, 5000 years. In other words, they did happen, but disappeared over time? Then they are historical. The question is whether they ever happened at all. |
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Post by ajhi2 on Jun 3, 2011 4:46:21 GMT -6
Neither Jesus or Vraja stories have any historical basis. Things disappear after 2000, 5000 years. In other words, they did happen, but disappeared over time? Then they are historical. The question is whether they ever happened at all. I'd refer to a historian or a history book. Trying to viewcast a bhakti-filter on science and history is not valid! |
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