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Post by malati on Jan 10, 2021 16:29:34 GMT -6
And I'm not even a U.S. citizen. A Krishna devotee should be the president of the USA. Tulsi Gabbard on the Dave Rubin show. (My first time to watch this show, found on YT). She's so sensible, intelligent and showing she's applying herself as a Krishna devotee. She's not a demoncrat anymore, oops wrong spelling, democrat....... just kidding. Joking is allowed here still ??, no one offended ?? Ok, Maybe she's still with the D, but she has withdrawn from the House re-election race. At the end of the interview she was asked about her plan now as a private citizen and said she's not sure yet but will still be involved in issues that mattered to her. I have to clarify as I don't want to spread fake news. youtu.be/f3j3RSxMSEg
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Post by meeno8 on Jan 11, 2021 10:58:21 GMT -6
'Fake news' is a Trumpism. Hopefully he gets what he deserves after his failed attempt at insurrection last week. Tulsi does not stand much of a chance to get elected to the presidency. Kamala Harris, on the other had, perhaps does.
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Post by meeno8 on Jan 11, 2021 15:29:13 GMT -6
As it is in the Phillipines, we have an oligarchy blended into the democracy, contrary to Nitai's opinion that it is only an oligarchy. One vote per voter in an election. Sure, it gets counted but does not have much consequence on its own. I could buy a ticket for a multi-state lottery with a $600 million dollar jackpot (which I did today) for $2. The odds of winning are astronomically against me. The risk/reward ratio is phenomenal, but perhaps I am just throwing good money away that could be spent on something like food or vitamins. Let's see if I actually win first! Ha ha! Nitai's mother was always into buying those tickets when she was alive.
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Post by malati on Jan 16, 2021 18:52:03 GMT -6
I respect all that you said, afterall, I'm not a U.S. citizen. Insurrection, inciting violence and freedom of speech are big topics and they have moral and legal implications. Don't you think there's such thing as a righteous insurrection or on a bigger scale a righteous war? What do you think then of Krishna leading the Pandavas to a war which they thought was righteous and must really be called for? Anyway, I have no opinions of the Capitol rioters anymore than of the Antifa/BLM violence and killing. I'm just only seeing the news. I'm more for more rights than less.
I just would note reading from history that the present nation of the U.S. A. came about from a few civil wars, from instances of insurrection, revolting from civil authority.
I've not lived in the Philippines for more than 30 years now and yes, the oligarchy is one of the bad results of capitalism. In my opinion, tech billionaires are the new oligarch, with their wealth and power extending their reach in our civil liberties.
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Post by meeno8 on Jan 17, 2021 9:53:22 GMT -6
If you read Pinker's Enlightenment Now, he goes through the various populist movements that historically have attempted to push back against the principles of the Age of Reason and the Enlightenment, which need to be reaffirmed with each new generation. He points out the dangers of an autocratic like Trump that stirs up populism, and populism can be on the left and the right.
As far as righteous wars go, there was our civil war that was a fight for and against the institution of slavery, and the righteous side won in that bloody conflict. Was it an absolutetly necessary war? Perhaps not, because slavery was already on its way out in the industrialized modern world, and the cotton gin made most of the manual labor on plantations obsolete.
The Mahabharata war between the Pandavas and Kauravas was predicated on the dharma of kshatriyas, which is to fight in battles, just as our militaries have their duty and allegiance to country today. The attempted coup at the US capitol was an unruly mob and the motivation was false conspiracy theories about the election and the fueling of the flames by Trump himself along with Republican members of congress. Those members of congress should be impeached and removed from office immediately, because they are extremely dangerous.
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Post by meeno8 on Jan 17, 2021 12:47:43 GMT -6
What we should hope for and envision is a future without wars, and without the need for any.
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Post by meeno8 on Jan 17, 2021 12:50:15 GMT -6
"I just would note reading from history that the present nation of the U.S. A. came about from a few civil wars, from instances of insurrection, revolting from civil authority."
It was a single insurrection, the American revolution, and a single civil war. I am not sure what you are reading, but perhaps some conspiracy theory websites that spew forth false information.
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Post by meeno8 on Jan 18, 2021 9:59:53 GMT -6
There was at least one unsuccessful slave uprising prior to the Civil War, as well as some minor skirmishes that were not direct attacks on government. This was the first somewhat coordinated, albeit chaotic, act of domestic terrorism by a large crowd.
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Post by avadhutadas on Feb 9, 2022 19:06:30 GMT -6
Why do we think Tulsi is a devotee?
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Post by madanmohandas on Feb 10, 2022 23:46:10 GMT -6
Why do we think Tulsi is a devotee? Because she presents herself as one or affects that she is, and her name.
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Post by Nitaidas on Feb 11, 2022 13:00:59 GMT -6
Why do we think Tulsi is a devotee? And why do we think a bhakta would make a good president? There is probably no better way to unbhakti a bhakta!
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Post by avadhutadas on Feb 11, 2022 18:05:07 GMT -6
Haha. I trust no politician but I did see that she claims to be a Krishna bhakta. Politically I don’t see any benefit to her saying this so I guess I believe her. Many people who aren’t Bhaktas have bhakta names.
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Post by meeno8 on Feb 12, 2022 12:36:25 GMT -6
Haha. She has that name because she has Indian heritage. My niece's daughter (my grand-niece) is named Priya Jewel. They just liked the sound of Priya, and have no real interest in Vaishnavism at all. Then there was that French figure skater named Surya, who had no Indian heritage at all. But I digress...
Our current Vice President is Kamala, but she is half Indian. At this point it is not likely she could get the Democratic nomination based on her poll numbers, but those could change between now and 2024, if Biden does not run again and she chooses to throw her hat in the ring.
I just find it somewhat disconcerting that after two millennia we are still stuck on that 'ideal' of the democracy from Plato's Republic, but then again he thought rule by a philosopher king was the optimum (least tyrannical) form of government. Getting closer to a true utopia will need discarding all those outmoded notions. Perhaps James Burke's idea of a controlled anarchy enabled by our technology may come to pass in the near future.
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Post by madanmohandas on Feb 15, 2022 0:26:30 GMT -6
Haha. I trust no politician but I did see that she claims to be a Krishna bhakta. Politically I don’t see any benefit to her saying this so I guess I believe her. Many people who aren’t Bhaktas have bhakta names. I think she wanted to attract the large Hindu diaspora in the USA. She does a special Dipavali greeting and promotes BBT Bhagavad Gita. The next PM here in the UK is likely to be one Rishi Shunak. hahahaha. it just quite amusing that these names are seeping in and becoming naturalised. There are quite a few Bhattacharyas in high social positions too. As for politicians, it goes without saying that none of them are any good, even if they start well intentioned they are inevitably corrupted by the 'system'. I don't know why people still look for Utopia in this duhkhayam asasvatam where we are all dead in the long run.
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Post by kirtaniya on Feb 15, 2022 4:09:23 GMT -6
The collective consciousness of civil society in some civilized countries is developed to a sufficient degree - to provide a good example and inspiration for the political opposition in the countries of the totalitarian regime. This development is impossible without recognition of the honest and good aspirations expressed by individual representatives of this civil society. The same honesty is in you, in them, in the community. Otherwise, it cannot be seen.
Likewise, the opposition in totalitarian countries gives politicians in civilized countries an understanding of how to maintain honesty. Whatever government comes to power - stay in opposition, in your expression. Stay on the side of the community. Power is delicious, but being in opposition may be not less delicious.
In the world of duhkhayam asasvatam we know happiness. Hope for a different happiness appears when this knowledge disappears. <smile of angel>
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