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Post by baba watch on May 29, 2009 7:37:01 GMT -6
Nitai das says:
"Advaita Das (Edwin Bryant) may well fit in here now. I believe he has been reinitiated by Sri Haridas Shastri"
Is this a fact or a guess?
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Post by Nitaidas on May 29, 2009 9:52:21 GMT -6
Nitai das says:"Advaita Das (Edwin Bryant) may well fit in here now. I believe he has been reinitiated by Sri Haridas Shastri"Is this a fact or a guess? I believe it is what you would call hearsay (aitihya), something I heard some years ago from someone reliable (one of Satyanarayana Das' close students), but unconfirmed (he has not admitted it to me). He and Satyanarayana are quite close and so it would not be surprising. I only place him there potentially. His scholarly works are generally quite good, though I question some of his translations of individual passages of the 10th Skandha. I should also add that the other Advaita Das was reinitiated by Sri Nikunja Gopala Goswami of the Advaita Vamsa. And that Haricarana was reinitiated by Sri Ananta Das Babaji. And I forgot to include old Gadadhara Pran Das in the non-scholar, non-IGM section. He was reinitiated by Sri Lalitaprasad Thakur. His translations are generally pretty poor, but with tweaking by his friend Jagat, they become more reliable. Those who are observant will notice a problem here. Most of the English sources and some Bengali sources are former IGMers. This means that there is a high degree of meme survival, especially among those who are less self-critical and self-analytical. Thus, even in these sources one has to approach them with some caution. An unchallenged IGM meme might still have made it through. It is just as if one went swimming in a muddy Missouri stream and after rising out of the water found that one is covered with blood-suckers. One has to remove them or they will make you sick. We don't always manage to get them all off. I am still plucking them off and it has been thirty years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2009 6:05:38 GMT -6
Gotta love the Dawkinsian memes, mon. Right on bro!
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Post by subala on Jun 13, 2009 14:12:14 GMT -6
I did a little diggin' into Meme theory. It's just another version of mayavada.....boy did that make me laugh?  I'll post the evidence, from scholars, when I have time to transcribe it... |
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Post by malati on Jun 13, 2009 16:50:52 GMT -6
I doubt that Advaita E. Bryant took initiation again from Sri Haridas shastri. His article was recently featured in Tripurari Swami's e-zine.
Subala, I'd be interested to hear about your meme -mayavada analogy. What I know about meme is that it must have a beneficial factor for it to survive and get passed on.
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Post by Francesco on Jun 13, 2009 17:52:30 GMT -6
Wow two great shows lined up for the weekend: Nitai's promise of more postings of poetry by Jagdbandhu Prabhu, and Subala's evidence from scholars that memes are just mayavada wash. Boy oh boy have I got my popcorn ready. Regarding doubt, what i find interesting is how the state of doubt seems to run proportionally deep to the state of faith and certainty once experienced by the doubter. The sudden desilusionment (in relation to her church) experienced by sister Aloysious (the main character in the film/play Doubt), seems to be the springboard from which she finds tremendous personal force to exact much needed justice. Can one see ever so clearly as when in a state of doubt? Her less endowed companion, the younger and less independent sister James, moving stiffly on the conveyor belt of belief, contrastingly misses almost every pertaining point. She does eventually get something, but only due to the leadership of the doubting big sister. (Speaking of Dawkins, this is not the thread about Advaitadas, the literalist, is it?) |
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Post by Cicero on Jun 13, 2009 18:19:36 GMT -6
Wrong thread Francesco.  |
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Post by Cesco on Jun 13, 2009 18:20:35 GMT -6
No doubt Cicero. ;D
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Post by Nityānanda dāsa on Mar 4, 2020 8:23:25 GMT -6
To clarify, I personally asked Advaita Prabhu Das (Edwin Bryant) and he said that he was given diksa by Sri Haridas Shastriji. Jai Sri Radhe!
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Post by meeno8 on Jun 13, 2020 7:38:46 GMT -6
If leeches are the reference, I have to jump in here. From what I have read in the book Nine Pints, they have great therapeutic value (especially in reconstructive surgery), if they are from Europe, whereas the American ones are basically useless in medicine. In modern medicine the use is quite different though from when they were used to 'remove excess blood' in prior centuries, which was a totally bogus and unscientific practice, plus being potentially seriously injurious to the patient.
If they are not attached by a physician, then certainly you definitely want to get them off of you after swimming in a stream.
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